Quickscope in Black Ops? “Hell No” Say Treyarch
During a impromptu Q&A session on Twitter last night, Treyarch’s Josh “JD2020″ Olin scuppered the hopes of all those that planned on using their ‘l33t Quickscoping skillZ’ in Black Ops. Treyarch don’t like Quickscoping and think FPS games should be “played straight-up”, thus, not only making Sleight of Hand Pro not work with Sniper Riles, but specifically gimping the ability to Quickscope in Black Ops.
When asked if Quickscoping will be possible in Black Ops, Olin replied:
No, Quickscoping is a cheap way to play. We’re specifically going to gimp Quickscoping, sorry. Play straight-up!
Not liking what they had heard, people began to quiz Olin about the subject of Quickscoping in Black Ops some more. Once again Treyarch’s community manager clarified:
Nope. Quickscoping is way more annoying to a way larger group of people than the quickscoping community who loves to do it. #cheap”.
How are they going to do this? Well, apart from disabling Sleight of Hand Pro with Sniper Rifles, Olin also said that they would be making Sniper Rifles off-center until you have fully zoomed in for a certain amount of time. We don’t know if they have anything else up their sleeves.
We have had a lot of discussion here on BlackOpsBlog about Quickscoping, here is your chance to go deep. Do you think Quickscoping should be allowed in Black Ops? Is it a genuine way to play a FPS game? Do you thing Quickscoping ruins the gameplay or makes it better? Are you fed up of landing in a game only to be playing against a team of Quickscopers? Do you think Quickscoping makes for better montages? Etc etc. Go at it in the poll and comments.
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playing straight up is playing cheap. GET THAT RIGHT! WAR IS NOT ABOUT BEING CHEAP OR NOT. quickscoping was some peoples way of life, how they succeded in Games. But now they suck at black ops because Treyarch took quickscoping away. Many people quickscoped. thats what treyarch should get right. u miss lots of shots with quickscoping anyways when u move, so that means u have to stand and quickscope alot. that slows the player down which should give advantages to the enemy NOT MAKE THEM ANGRY! thumb up if u agree. thunb down if u dont have the skills to quickscope and are happy quickscoping is gone. Everyone thumbs this up so we can stick a thumb up treyarchs nose, to say we aint done yet!
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It’s cheap? Really, the cheapest thing in BO is all these kids running around with tubes and RPGs. That’s all they do. That is the cheap thing, it’s really hard to do objective missions when kids are shooting grenades left and right, that should be disabled!
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..ok, i love quick scoping but it is hard. quick scoping takes a long time to master and get good at. it takes more skill to quick scope than to take some lmg and spray it at someone. people complain about being killed by quick scopers all the time but what about noobtubers and shot gun frenzies. i would consider those more annoying bcuz you just fire in the general direction of someone and they die. quick scoping takes talent…and treyark has failed to realize that bcuz they werent good at it..
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Quickscoping is all about skill. it doesnt ruin the game, its part of the game so it shld be left there, quickscoping is as unfair as killing somebody any other way. The reason you are against quickscoping is. You people are jealous because YOU DON’T HAV SKILL!!!
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If quickscoping is a way of life, it must be a sad, depressing life.
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Guys, guess what? BO is supposed to be realistic. Does quickscoping happen in real life? “Hell no”
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your right. but can people really snipe you a mile away with the famas’s iron sights…? no but this is a game not real life
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i wish treyarch would look at this website
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Really sounds to me like the guy is part of the “Majority” he claims to be annoyed by quickscoping. It’s ridiculous that they gimp’d Quickscoping. Why? Because now the Sniper Rifles are significantly underpowered considered to the other weapons in the game. You can 3-shot someone with pretty much any assault rifle from across any map and on top of that with the lack of recoil and little to no instability you can kill players from across any map with any assault rifle. The Sniper Rifles now sway in such an unstable way that range almost has no factor in the outcome where as the assault rifle will almost always win. I base that on the fact that your reticule does not sway at all when you aim down the sight with an assault rifle or SMG. Basically, if you choose to snipe in any game mode you put yourself at a major disadvantage against the average enemy. It looks like Olin made a decision based on what he or a group of friends felt, because when he says “Nope…” he just closes his mind off to everyone else. Be open-minded, you don’t seem to care that you’ve created an imbalance in the weapons. And you certainly can’t tell me you haven’t done this.. I have a “Clutch” gameplay in my fileshare where I take the FAMAS and kill all 6 enemy players in a Search and Destroy by myself. They were all sniping.
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yea and plus were learning to do it with out sleight of hand pro… and treyarch aint even good at making cods
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You just admitted that people suck at Black Ops now cause they can’t quick scope. If quick scoping requires so much skill, then you should be talented enough to play without it, no?
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We do have skill, more then you most probably. We get bored at the game and you know what, it’s quite fun
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Quickscoping is my passion. Take it out you wont sell s**t bro, most people have already gotten rid of MW3 because of the double tap, and 75% of people wont buy black cocks because the first black ops was s**t, and so was mw3.
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Someone’s mad because they can’t snipe. Quickscoping is nothing but abusing the game’s aim assist mechanics. Black Ops is what traditional snipers would play, instead of this quickscoping s**t. Oh, and by tradition snipers, I mean HARDSCOPERS.
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Is fun scoping but u know in time u get mad cuzz if u a good scoper u go down quick. Makes it hard 4 the enemy 2 kill u .. it takes. 1 shot from a sniper ,3 2 4 shots from a rifle and must be quick cuzz ones that sniper sees u hey is over… But I think the hole BO2 SUCKS THEY WENT 2 FAR IN 2 THE FUTURE.. JUST ONE GUYS OPINION…
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Quik5kiLlz is completely right. quickscoping was my way of life and now its not gonna be
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Reading the above comments by Josh Olin really aggravated me. How can you honestly say that quickscoping is a cheap way to play?! Obviously he’s not good at sniping and enjoys spraying and praying just as much as 3/4 of gamers do. It takes NO skill what so ever. Honestly when I use an assault rifle on say COD4 or MW2 I can BEAST. I’m sure I kill more people on average per game than I do sniping. I simply use the sniper rifles because it adds challenge to the game that is just not there when using assault rifles. How ecstatic would you be if you saw a group of oh say like four people and you picked everyone off, one shot each, knowing that they had assault rifles and that you played superior to them? (most players have probably never done that so they woudn’t know)It takes straight up skill to do this and I’ve had it happen on many occasions playing previous, better games such as COD4 and that is the only reason I continue to play these games. People such as Josh Olin got mad that there were players out there who could make amazing shots with snipers. Oh so let’s gimp quickscoping they’re cheaters! Haha, no you are simply a mediocre player and so is everyone who believes quickscoping is not legit. I bought this game thinking it would be great, but you just lost my money Treyarch I took it back. Way to ruin gaming for millions of people.
Secondly I just want to throw out an idea that I’ve had for a while. Why not make a game such as MW3 or something like that where the majority of weapons in the game are sniper rifles. EVERY SINGLE game that they’ve come out with favors the assault rifle. Why not change it up and make a game that’s all about sniper rifles? It seems only fair to the people who enjoy sniping since you ruined it in black ops. Why shouldn’t we get a game that favors what we like? Stop favoring assault rifles and let the skilled players enjoy being skilled. Make up for your mistake and I will buy it in a heart beat. I know they will probably dismiss this MW3 idea, but I swear if they come out with another game that is like black ops I will never buy from them again. Period.
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How would you know anything about COD if your a hardcore Halo fan? Can you quickscope in Halo? I don’t think so. I bet you just sat on your ass playing the Black Ops campaign on recruit thinking that you’re the best at COD just cause you can shoot some dumb ass bots.
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Or they can make a QS lobby for the next game, where you can only bring up the scope for a second or a 1/2 second(etc).
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Or they could make a sniper rifle only game mode, and then get KOed by me and my AS50 camping and hardscoping your ass.
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Well MW3 is comming out and hopefully it will support quickscoping
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Treyarch favors assault rifles because they are and always were console jockeys, they dont care about pc community. Josh Olin is a total r****d, as he says quickscoping is a cheap way to play as it requires a hunrded times more skill than the average assault rifle or smg and people have to be good to actually earn a kill. Treyarch completly gimped Sniping in Black ops as the secondary weapons are way too weak in comparission to a assault rifle or lets just say ak47-u in meele combat. Youll lose all the time if ur opponent aint a total noob by fair conditions. Quickscoping was the best thing that could happen to Call of Duty Games and Infity Ward did know that or accepted the community who mostly liked it. However the next CoD (Mw 3) is gonna be developed by Infity Ward again and so the Game will be better than Black Ops, IW CoD = real CoD, i personally didnt like one Treyarch game at all, because of their “modified” ( i call it gimped) engines and their favor for console players. I pray to god Treyarch will no longer mess up CoD games with their presence and let Infinity Ward do the good work.
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Quickscoping is so unrealistic it’s pathetic. The sniping is still unrealistic, but not as much. Not only that, but if you want to show your skill as a sniper, then find a corner of the map, sit for a few minutes, then headshot three people sprinting through a two yard gap between two doors before getting a double kill with one bullet from a guy camping, sticking his head out in front of a run n gunner.
Then switch to your Dual Pythons and race to the corner of a choke point, using your hardscoping to *control* the enemy and their spawn, like a sniper’s supposed.
Sniper’s aren’t supposed to excel at TDM, but Dom, Dem, SnD, Sab, HQ, hell any objective type gameplay in any game. Try
Am I the only one who hasn’t even really picked up sniping before now, and actually loves it?
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well, I think that quickcoping takes alot more skill than people say it does, and when u said its not realistic remember this. If games were to be totally realistic then all you would move slow as hell and once you died you wouldnt respawn, ever. That would be it for your account and thats all the online play you get for that game. I am not a sniper, but I do respect that quickscoping took skill and added to the game.
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quickscoping isn’t sniping. headshot snipes are sniping. noobs failing to understand the difference doesn’t make quickscoping legit.
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Actually, headshots are Hollywood. Snipers and, well, all people trained in firearms are trained to aim for the center of mass, which is your chest. That is one thing Treyarch got wrong about sniping. People do not survive after taking a sniper round in the chest. They need to make sniping less focused on headshots.
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If you have watched any sniper/quickscoping montages, they’re really fricken cool. They show the best of what the snipers can do (quickscope) and these montages take days and days of gameplay to make them cool. Josh watched a bunch of montages and thought, “wow this is unfair and the guns are overpowered” no, they’re not. If you try to run around and rush with a sniper its somewhat difficult. In blackops it’s noscope and no skill. It’s not fun to snipe and the sniper is at a much greater disadvantage. An assault rifle will win a gunifight against a sniper rifle anyday, it takes skill to run around and even just “hardscope” with snipers. Props to any snipers out there. Check out sniper: ghost warrior, it’s a cool game, it has realistic sniping. If I wanna quickscope I play cod4 or mw2, if I wanna d**k around and try to get weird noscope I play black ops. If you want sniper on sniper all thee time, then get it. Lol peace
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Montages are ALL that are out there. And they are all of QUICKSCOPING. No HARDSCOPING. No CAMPING. JUST. FARKING. QUICKSCOPING.
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Look, i quick scope, but I’m glad it’s gone. personally, the game and more importantly Treyarch is beginning to lean more and more toward realism and lets face it, a sniper on the field, which i was
will not run around and “Quick Scope”. today’s rifles are 5-10 pounds. and you most certainly wont want to hold one up all of the time.
another thing i don’t understand is why you people are getting to volatile over something that you can’t control. instead of calling quick scoping your life, pick up a carbine, race into some action and get some kills the good ol’ fashioned American way
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Have stopped playing mw3 because of quick scoping. The reason I found this site is I need to know if it is in new game . If so I will not buy. Really takes the fun out of game when playing tactical games and a team of quick scope rs are just racking up kills and that’s it. Cant keep track of how many times I have been non hit killed by sniper. Think it takes away from realism of game. We have real places with real guns. When did our military start training our guys to quick scope. If it is such an issue then make a objective game the only place you can quick scope and separate them from people like me and my friends who have really started hating the game because of it.
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well i love to q/k scope but i was a bit gutted when they patched it but then again i think its better and reqiures a lot more skill than in mw2 and it helps with becoming faster and more accurate i did dislike the idea at first but when i got into the game i realised this is far more fun. if people can only play good just by quickscoping then they aint much of a gamer in my opinion i thought it was the bollox when i first learnt but it just got boring they was no challenge or skill just aim fire thats it so im glad they made the sniping on blacks ops more realistic its a lot more fun
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Quickscoping is just sniping, good snipers can scope in and kill the enemy quickly, quickscopers are just experienced snipers who are able to kill quickly the enemies, the same as rushers, they are just experienced players that are able to kill enemies quickly with submachine guns. Removing quickscoping is a mistake, its just a way of playing, and its pretty challenging!
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No, it is not. Quickscoping is the destruction of a long standing skill that, even in a video game, takes time to master. I applaud Treyarch for removing the ability to quickscope. Qiuckscoping is not how a sniper rifle is supposed to be used. It was purposefully put in the game as a long distance killer, not a run up and stick your gun in another players face killer(which really takes no skill at all.) If you want to do that, why not use an SMG or Assault Rifle? Quickscopers are, in reality, just big showoffs who think they have something to prove, or they just enjoy being a minority of players who enjoy making the majority of players angry and annoyed, which is juvenile and immature. If your going to take the time to master quickscoping, why not commit it to mastering more orthodox sniping? The mentality of a sniping player should be to move into position, take your shot, and relocate to avoid giving away your position, not “how many people can I kill by shoving my gun in their face and barley aiming.” Oh, and to all those who will reply to this insulting me, you are only proving my point of immaturity.
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I totally agree with you mate. You summed up what I was gonna say. Why the hell not use SMGs? Or Shotguns? If you want to use a sniper, use it the correct way, not a CQC weapon. Most QSers say that they just QS because they are really snipers and get in CQC situations. But they never snipe from far away. Only at medium-close range.
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No WAW-_-ScoPeZ, quickscoping is not in any way, shape, or form, sniping. It takes no real skill at all, contrary to popular belief. The sniper rifle was put in the game as a long distance killer, not a run up and shove your gun in another player’s face killer.(Which, again, takes no skill at all.)Quickscoping is the destruction of the long standing art form of sniping. I applaud Treyarch for removing it from the game. If your going to run around like that, why not use a SMG or Assault Rifle? Really, I feel personally people that quickscope either want to show off, which just makes them think there superior to everyone else, which is not true, or they just enjoy being part of a minority of players that enjoy making the majority of players angry and annoyed, which is immature and juvenile. Another thing is quickscoping destroys your K/D ratio. You will be routinely killed by people with automatic weapons in a straight up firefight. If you would act like a normal sniper, your K/D ratio could actually be quite excellent. So why not take, oh, lets say the month you take mastering quickscoping and put it toward learning how to snipe? Your mentality should be to get into position far from major combat, take your shot, then relocate to avoid giving away your sniping spot. Oh, and another thing WAW-_-ScoPeZ, sniping takes patience and even if you scope in and kill quickly, this increases your chance of being discovered. Sniping is not about speed. You should be methodical and have measured movements while you are sniping. Oh, and to all of you who will reply to this post insulting me, you are only proving my point on immaturity.
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In complete honesty I’ve never had a problem with quick scoping and I didn’t even realise anyone else did until reading this article. I’ve never used it, but I’ve also never really been bothered by it. Sure I’ve been killed a whole bunch of times by quick scopers, but I’ve also been killed a whole bunch of times with shotguns, LMGs, and submachine guns.
But if Treyarch have done their research and say LOADS of people are annoyed by it, and few (relatively speaking) use it, then hey, it’s a good thing they changed it. Quick scopers from MW2 may well be disappointed that their beloved tactic is no longer useable, but there are many things which you can’t do/are not the same as MW2. If you make an effort to get over the fact that IT’S A DIFFERENT GAME, and try to see BO as a standalone game, and not so much of an MW3, then you will probably learn to love it for what it is. I’ve only had it about 2 weeks, and initially it was frustrating. But now I’m starting to appreciate the changes and the new additions and I think it’s an awesome game.
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…yeh okay… just take out quickscopeing…cuz its sooo bloody easy..but no the god dame noobtoob….really ..cuz that so much more fair
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Its ridiculous how 3Arc took off quick scopeing. they absolutely ruined the L96A1. You should never get a hit marker with it, EVER! Every gun is better than a sniper rifle. Any gun can snipe someone across the map. now that your up close to some one and you get the first blow with the L9 you get a hit marker? by the time your done scoping your dead. now sense you cant quick scope people would rather just use a noob tube than snipe. at least quick scope had more skill. 3Arc supports bad gameing and gamers and ruin all the fun.
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Quickscoping, is the way to play COD, its been here since cod2, there are many clans that quickscope, Quickscope needs way more skill then normal assault, smg, or lmg, Treyarch shouldn’t make BO, Quickscoping is part of the COD’s if you don’t like it leave Call of Duty and go play habbo.
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Being a player who mixes it up with gun choice between SMGs, Assault rifles and Snipers I can see both sides of the story.
On MW2 I do the best when using the AK-47 because it’s so easy to kill with and when using the Intervention I tend to do worse, although still mainly positive k/d, just because it’s that much harder. When using a fully automatic gun and I get quickscoped I say fairplay because I appreciate it’s a skill and makes a good killcam apposed to some 10 year old spraying me down with his ACR heartbeat sensor.
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Exactly. When I see someone quickscope me in the killcam I say “damn! nice shot!”, I don’t go trolling him.
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The lack of quick scoping is the reason I’m not buying Black Ops… Thanks, now go die Treyarch!
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if its that bad just drop the rifle all together and if you want real snipers make all the maps compatable with rifles to use the rifle in the “proper way” (hardscopes) dosnt matter to me that much watch my montages after patch
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if they didnt want quickscoping because it pissed of people, why didnt they just make a quickscoping game mode? then everyone is happy. also you can stll quick scope anyway :L
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Don’t mind quickscoping..But I do mind these f**king noobtubers running about…And I also hate the “spinners”, those are the people whom try to make a nice last all the f**king time. f**k.
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Sniping is Hard in real time
cuz Wind
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I know a way to quick scope in black ops and I won’t tell anybody for the sake of keeping quickscoping alive. And to many people’s beliefs q/k scoping in black ops takes a lot more skill. Somehow though i found it easier. How?, well the slower aim gives me more time to aim for the body and the random sway makes the quickscope into a dragscope(in Black Ops a quick scope is a real fast dragscope)and really its a lot more fun than it is in MW2 where anybody could train for 1 min and then be able to wipe out the whole enemy team. Thats not the case in Black Ops as it takes real skill to snipe in Black Ops and I do hardscope cause a real sniper should know when what to do and when not to do. And for those that want this game to be realistic then lets take off all the perks, the radar, every gun is a 1-2 shot kill dual wielding will fail, wind will affect the bullet, there will be no HUD, and finally characters will get tired in the middle of the battle because of the guns weight.
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If you can run around with a sniper rifle, then answer me this…HOW THE f**k IS QUICKSCOPING CHEAP?! OK sure. They gimp quickscoping, but they don’t gimp things that people actually hate. Ex: One man army, nube tubes, danger close, scavenger, lightweight, commando, attack knife, etc. If you can run around with a sniper rifle, and kill people WITHOUT CAMPING, then go ahead man. You deserve that one shot kill. Josh Olin is a f**king idiot!
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quick scoping was fun people werent even good at it unless u practiced and it dont matter were learning to do it no with out zoom n fast but it dont matter black ops aint even as good as other cods treyarch sucks at making cods
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Everyone knows that Halo has it’s noscope moments, and the Call of Duty series are known for it’s fantastic quickscope montages.
Now that the flagship playstyle of CoD has been removed (or altered in such a way that it proves ineffective to do so), of course it’s lowered the bar in terms of quality. This is another example of the developers bending over for the masses that complain and whinge and whine about how they suck, and then the developers listen to the demanded changes, and then proceed to “dumbing” the game down so that it caters to casual gamers, rather than providing a challenging environment where skillful players who know what they’re doing will come out on top, rather than being beaten by some noob who, in an FPS for example, sprays his automatic weapons and hopes to get kills.
Fortunately, not all game developers balance the game to turd status, as is apparent with the Gears of War series.
Let’s hope more and more game designers and studios learn from the mistakes that Treyarch and Halo Reach’s developers have done.
Oh, me? I quickscope every now and then. I’m not pro, just lucky every now and then, so I tend to use semi-automatic rifles instead.
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Quickscoping is what made MW2 fun and challenging for me and without it im dead. Maybe to all thoses quickscope hatrz learn how to quickscope and you will see how fun it is.
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well if treyarch didnt like quickscoping its fine, i even use to think quick scopers were people so desperate they would run around with a one shot weapon, but now im on the road of becoming a great quickscoper so if u wanna snipe just try combat training and if u dont have online go to local, split screen, edit game options then put enemies, and use extended mags or variable zoom (to the second or third zoom of course) now i suggest nuke town to start with then once u get better go to jungle get on the cliff and try noscope or quickscope, trust me its so much easier once u get the hang of it but mw2 is the “cry baby” game to play to quickscope because of how easy it is, treyarch might have made the game a little bad for me but i can live without having the easiest sniper game in the world (mw2)
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Quickscoping actually DOES take skill. The only way someone who picks up a sniper, have no skill, and gets a quickscope kill is pure luck. I would know, I absolutely SUCK at quickscoping- I get 1 kill out of 7 tries quickscoping. The main problem of taking away quickscoping in BLOPS was because they COMPLETELY ruined the sniper. They nerfed quickscoping but forgot to balance it by make sniper rifles a 1 shot kill EVERYWHERE. It’s absolutely bulls**t that you are sitting there, aiming in, 2 guys come out, you shoot both of them with 1 bullet and neither die, now you’re dead because the snipers SUCK. The only good thing Treyarch did was Zombies.
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i completely agree with shovan and the only ppl who hate quick scoping are the ppl who suck at it and as rapid fire goes it sucks and is REALLY noobish rapid fire vs sniper rapid almost always wins and the reason ppl suck at qs is because they prefer to use rapid fire and hate when ppl kill them with snipers thats the only reason y ppl cry about it how bout ya make an online vote and let the majority players decide instead of ya sense were the ones buying the game while ya make a profit and its bulls**t that we cant choose!!!
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Its also your choice to buy the game…
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I liked what they did with Black Ops sniper rifles , so snipers actually snipe and use their scopes , but quickscoping does take skill and quickscopers have trained their quickscoping “skills” . I have both MW2 and Black ops , I have to say you can “Quickscope” in Black Ops , but you have to look through your scope and hold the L3 button before looking through the scope and then hit the guy infront of you , many of you will say that’s not a quickscope and I don’t really care what anybody thinks since it’s just my opinion , but yeah sniping in MW2 is diffrent than in Black ops .
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People are just mad because quickscoping is so deadly, it take’s a lot of skill to do. It’s ok for them to remove it though because some people dont like it? Well why not remove the grenade launcher attatchment (noob tube) then? People hate that but it’s still in black ops. Cod hasen’t been the same since mw1.
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Quickscopers many hate them becouse they prefere a straight up shoot out not a 1 hit your dead and all drop like fly’s and the only real way to kill a pro quick scoper is to be a pro quick scoper and are 49% of you stating we need to learn how to quick scope in order to play more fairly and injoy ourselfs becouse dropping like fly’s and nearly forced to learn quickscoping would suck……End QuickScoping for good and all learn to try kill people with guns that need effort…And for new players who would like a good shhot um up game you think playing against a team of quickscopers is nice for them and will want them to keep playing ?? I think i will stick with treyarch 100% on this 1.
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i think its sad that ya take quick scope away when its harder to do and takes a lil skill yet you try making it impossible hard scoping is r****ded and noobish when like i said qs is much harder and takes skill to do so. So please dont take it away and its not a cheap way of playing it and i would stop playing it if ya took it away beside arent you suppose to make it fun for the players and not yas self? majority like to quick scope and thats the way we do it so do as the players want and stop thinking of yas self ya made the game for us and we want quick scope!!
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People don’t like quickscoping because when someone gets good at it people get mad because they can play better than them. I love quickscoping. People complain when quickscopers are using mainly a bolt action gun and they have a FULLY AUTO gun. If they were good they would be able to kill a person sniping fast but they aren’t and some people are Just that good at the game and others can’t stand it. Quickscoping is the best part of CoD. If I wanted to run around the entire time with a machine gun I’d play Halo. Bring back quickscoping Treyarch.
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Well I been playin Black Ops for 4-5 months, and I feel quickscoping is something that does take some skill in BLACK OPS NOT MW2 even though MW2 is freaking awesome, so me personally Treyarch taking off quickscoping in black ops or what I would say “gimping” it doesn’t affect me att all, in fact I feel it’s more of a challenge than obstacle, think about it, if u see a good quick-scoper in Black Ops give him respect cause it’s not something easy to do in black ops, so overall Treyarch gimping quickscoping is nothing, its only a challenge, a challenge that not so easy but exzillerating at the same time, all I got to say. Oh and P.S. Got anymore “challenges” treyarch, lol.
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im a qs n i have to say its easier to qs on black ops than mw2 who ever wants to add me on ps3 put kingzachattack im boss and also treyarch i swear if u make qs harder im quiting and ima tell my friends to quit to n i hav a hundreds ok people say halos better than cod after black ops i can see y ok make qs easier please ok…
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If you’re gonna get rid of quick scoping, then you need to get rid of noob tubing. It’s not fair when people b***h about one thing thats unfair and then go and do another.
Also, for anyone who want’s to be able to get quick kills with a sniper at close range, just use an acog scope.
And Treyarch, How the hell do you expect snipers to defend themselves at close range? And don’t say they have a pistol, because those things don’t do s**t! Quick scoping takes a lot more skill than spraying and praying with a full auto weapon. If they have a full auto and the enemy has a snimer rifle (semi or bolt) then maybe it’s not that the one quick scoping is cheating. Msybe the one with the full auto just sucks at call of duty!
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Another thing: if you make the bullet slightly off target for a certain amount of time, you’re pretty much screwing everyone who is quick scoping or your kind of “true sniping. For example: The whole point of sniping is to kill your target quickly and now that you’ve went and moded this feature you are esentually making it harder for people who are shooting at long range to hit their target before they get hit themselves.
And taking away the snipers ability for a 1 hit kill is pretty stupid. again you’re screwing over everyone who snipes at long range. I’ve had many occassions recently where I have my crosshairs on somones head and I shoot, get a hit marker, but they just run off before my sniper rifle recovers from the recoil. So thanks for that geniuses!!!! ;(
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Treyarch never make another game again Black Ops is the worst game in call of duty history! i’ll never buy another game made by treyarch… i hope all the makers of black ops get slapped
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ppl and treyarch i think the best way to resolve this problem tryarch should make a game mode that is call quickscope so people who love qs play in there and if someone hardscopes its gets kick out of the game instantly so people stop argueing with this litle problem that my opinion if guys think like me rate me and thumbs up
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Me personally I think quick scoping is cheating due to the fact of its too quick of a kill. If a sniper is in close range he needs to use his secondary like everyone else. Another thing is noob tubing, yes it’s completely cheating because one close enough to you and your dead/: but I have seen some quick scopers who some how kill me when I’m shooting with a auto! I aimed and then they just shot once and killed me. That’s unfair. And they need to make it harder for hackers because so many people are doing that now because they can’t play and it completely ruins it for the real players): I hate aimbot and all of that crap. Be fair and use your skill and yes I agree they should make a lobby just for quick scopers just to settle that
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Good riddance to console quick-scopers!
Be a man and slow-scope your close range victims!
With auto-aim enabled on consoles quick-scoping took very little skill.
The only skilled quick-scoping was in CS 1.6.
You didn’t have some auto-aim centering the rifle for you!
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quick scope in black ops is so easy. imean mw2 was just realy cheap, with seight of hamd PRO. so the way they made black ops and sniping is really good. especially with the L96A1 w/extended mags. Add Me on PSN NiTRosHoTz-
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(this is my xbox 360 gamertag)
personally i find quickscoping easier on black ops because you HAVE to take that extra second to aim in. it disiplines you to aim your shots yet if you can do it right and get good 2 shots left in a l96A1 bolt action sniper 10 feet from a mp5k rapid fire. (two really cheap things) the L96A1 will win hands down if you just take the extra 2 seonds instead of just pulling up and shooting. and NO!!! 2 extra seconds is not hardscoping…. oh and with a tomohawk and full auto cz75, even if you miss your first quickscope shot you can get a kill of pretty easy so like yah
best quickscope class
L96A1 – extended mags
CZ75 – full auto upgrade
tomohawk (backup for a missed quick scope)
decoy (distraact people)
c4 (easy kill)
perks-
scavenger pro (start with more CZ75 ammo and can get tomohawks back easier)
slight of hand pro (quicker pulling out aand aiming down with the CZ75 for when you need to defend against more then one enemy)
and
Ninja pro (nobody hears you coming)
also im a good quickscoper so anyone wanting to do some matches just add me and we can do some private qs’ing in black ops or mw2
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I really don’t understand how people conclude that someone who’s is good at quick scoping is good at COD just based on that fact alone. If that was the case then the quick scopers wouldn’t do it as often as they do. The proof is everywhere that a great deal of quick scopers do quick scoping the majority of the match or even the whole match. Just look on youtube for the quick scope montages there are a lot of them. The only reason there are even hardcore quick scopers out there is because most, or even all of the time it is the only way they can win a fight. Take away that scoped rifle and they wouldn’t know what to do. There may be some of you that argue its the same for people who fallback on full auto weapons or noob tubes. I agree somewhat but regardless of what you may think, I believe true skill in COD comes from the ability to be unpredictable. When I say that I mean a person who doesn’t do the same thing repeatedly or a person who can still kill with ANY weapon you put in his arsenal. In the case that he doesn’t have his favorite weapon he can quickly judge his situation and make the right move for the kill. For example a quick scoper is running through a tunnel trying to get to the other end and suddenly a player comes up quickly behind him with a shotgun. IIn this situation a player who is good solely at quick scoping would do a 360 turn and QS him before he had a chance to shoot. A player who was good at COD in general would SWITCH to a knife (being affective with different weapons) and gut the shotgun wielder like a pig. Being good with one aspect doesn’t make you a great player as many of these quick scopers seem to think they are the s**t. On top of that there is hella auto aim in MW2. Try “quick-scoping in a game that has looser aiming handicaps and less or no auto aim. Remember when you were little kids and you played the old games like street fighter or mortal kombat? There would always be that friend or little brother who would do the same fighting move over and over again, because they didn’t know how to do anything else and they were scared to acceptably lose a fair fight. To me quick scoping is the same exact thing as those little kids who only do one move to win in mortal kombat. It just makes my skin crawl when I here arrogant players who think way too highly of themselves talk about how it takes skill to quick scope. I am an honest player and I will greatfully respect a player that can kill me 100 different ways, but a player who can only kill me by quick-scoping? That is when I think of that same little kid playing street fighter bashing the same button over and over again. It is so clear though, there are actually quick scopers that say they would stop playing COD if it wasn’t for quick scoping. That there tells me that quick scoping is the only way they can win and will go as far as to stop playing in order not to lose like a man and actually have to learn how to play COD to its fullest potential.
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L96A1 – Extended Mag.
Python – Speed Reloader
GhostPro , SleightOfHandPro , NinjaPro
Motion Sensor , Concussion , Tomahawk
[ add me on psn Nitroshotz- ]
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Quickscoping is the ONLY thing that takes skill in COD. As a quickscoper you only have one shot and one chance against someone who can spray 20-30 bullets at you within seconds. you have to have great accuracy and reaction times. Look at OpTic and FaZe, they recruit the best players in the world and they only snipe, they get quadfeeds, hit nearly all their quickscopes, hit trickshots nearly all the time and get sick clips etc.. There is no skill in holding down the trigger and spraying with a regular gun. people who hate on quickscopers and trickshotters are just jealous and mad because they can’t do it. If they were good at it they wouldn’t hate at all. Yours sincerely Dare Wlsy
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You can quick scope in black ops wtf is treyarch talking about? You can yy it, 360, silent shot, etc. Same as any other cod really. All the other cods it’s easy as hell, but black ops is a tiny bit harder, not ridiculously hard, and specifically the way its harder is, you can’t move and quickscope you just have to move, then quickscope, then set up for your next shot. Same sh!+ really, just different strategy.
That being said, I don’t really quickscope in lobbies, I’ve only done it a handful of times, and there’s only been two or three I actually went positive. I think they should not have gimped it because 1. It still works… 2. Nott hat big of a deal. 3. The time ya’ll spent coding new ways to prevent quickscoping could’ve been spent on REMOVING noobtubes.
Let’s be real, say you have flak jacket on, what would get you more pissed off, somebody suppressing your location with a m60 then all of a sudden out of nowhere comes this random kid ADS with his noobtube the whole match sprays you with noobtubes?
I guarantee you’ll find a lot more people who hate that than who hate quickscopers.
Quickscoping DOES take skill. I sucked at it a few months ago, but I practiced this whole time with my clan and I’m better, but nowhere near able to go into a tdm or ffa and dominate just doing that. Most people are like that, only a select few are good enough to bring that to a real game mode.
Check out my clan’s website, might as well since you took the time to read my post. http://www.droppinbodies.com we quickscope, we play “straight up” we’re all around players. And only a few of our memebers qs in matches, and that not very often, either. Mw3 and the old cod’s!
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Holy crap I can’t type today :/
One other thing. Hit detection could use some work. I have pretty good accuracy, but one entire clip of a kiparis should not have to be spent on one person each. That’s three kills and I’m back to my pythons.
Crap like that is the reason why there’s places that make modded controllers, real talk.
About the “your choice to buy it ” comment. Don’t even go there. Granted it BASICALLY is the persons choice to buy the game, but what fps series is remotely comparable to the enjoyment of cod? There’s no other war game (realistic, and I use that term lightly,) likE cod, so what other choice is there? Sacrifice fps’s alltogether because dev’s don’t want to make a good game? Sacrifice not playing with 90 percent of their xbl/psn friends because they didn’t buy it? Come on now. MOH? Joke of a game. Halo? LOL glwts.
Treyarch, you make a better cod than iw does, that’s fact. Gameplay is smoother overall, and your game engine is pretty decent I might add.
But definitely Stop the nitpicking at quickscopers, please, it’s bad publicity. If you guys can get the whole hit detection thing worked out, make a no noob tube lobby of game modes, and adapt some respect for DIFFERENT playing styles rather than setting your own standards, you guys will do very well with iron wolf, er, black ops 2. And that, I am looking forward to, regardless.
I hope the right eyes will come across this withing treyarch and something will be done to cater to all types of gamers. Making one type of gamer out of hundreds of thousands will not be a successful venture. A good coder knows there’s ALWAYS workarounds, question remains, will you still waste your time on lol worthy “gimping”?
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well…quickscoping is difficult and it takes time to master …the ones who have just started wil not be affected but those who have mastered it will get a shock…..for the other players it is very difficult to play with these guys and sure enough playing with normal assault guns does not require that much skill….i am sniperist myself but when i play with assault or shotgun…i PLAY much better…right now i play black ops…and with sniper i get around 20 kills but with assault or shotgun i get around 30 kills…..so my conclusion in that treyach or cod makers must not change anything and let it be the way it is…anyone who wants to be my friend in ps3:psn sagarvakala facebook: sagarvakala@yahoo.com thanks
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I just dont like how josh worded his response. “cheap”. Really? Because i think a throwing axe in the foot wouldent instantly kill you. Oh wait i forgot they want realism…
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Quickscopin is the best thing to do in black ops it’s fun an takes skill to master and/or perform. I think the most annoying is the noob tubers and shotguns running around. But sniping is by fr the best in all FPS games. If you like to quockscope, look me up on Xbox 360 Frozen WolfPack
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